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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (14/24)
 11/17/12 11:07am
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first off you never adjust the throttlebody screw for idle problems,the tps has screws on slots to adjust the voltage,not the throttle plate.by doing this you will not have full throttle when you floor the acelerator,also this can cause a stumble.mid america sells a cable to just that for $14.99 with instructions on how to adjust the tps,all you need is a digatal meter.the part# 601-092.you now will have to put the throttle plate back to where it was  make further adjustments.tlavac
Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (15/24)
 11/19/12 1:41am
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TLaVac said: first off you never adjust the throttlebody screw for idle problems,the tps has screws on slots to adjust the voltage,not the throttle plate.by doing this you will not have full throttle when you floor the acelerator,also this can cause a stumble.mid america sells a cable to just that for $14.99 with instructions on how to adjust the tps,all you need is a digatal meter.the part# 601-092.you now will have to put the throttle plate back to where it was  make further adjustments.tlavac


I was having the stumbling, and I knew that I didn't have full throttle options before as the screw was pushing the throttle plate more open.  I've since backed out the throttle plate completely and noticed the idle is where it is supposed to be, and I'm not having a stumble from a stop.  So I didn't adjust the throttle screw for my idle issue as I know that the ECM controls that, but having the plates partially open caused me to have a higher idle.  Definitely frustrating trying to figure out what previous owners have done or tried to do incorrectly.


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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (16/24)
 11/21/12 8:36am
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that's the most painful thing is what previous owners have done. best to get things back to the proper position and go from there. the adjustment for the screw is from the factory manual. great to hear it is running better.

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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (17/24)
 11/21/12 12:27pm
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i'm glad its running better.get some factory manuals and it will help you adj the plate to factory clearance and then the tps will need to adj accordingly.get that harness and manuals and you will be all set.tlavac
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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (18/24)
 6/11/13 2:39pm
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Okay not to shoot a dead horse - but I went to the hardware store yesterday.  I wasn't in there for a horrible long time, and it was a hot day yesterday.  Finished my shopping, I got in the car and she started up a little hard, the idle was really weird - then she died.  So restarted her and she wouldn't idle.  After she would die she wouldn't start right back up but had to crank her for a bit.  I got her home with some fancy stickshift feetwork, she didn't idle at all on the way home so I had to keep restarting her.  At home I turned her off and went inside to tell the wife we need to take her in to the shop, and not a few minutes later went back out and restarted her and now the idle is running fine.  Had to make couple of more runs to hardware store later on - needed to get my home a/c working.  Corvette didn't repeat any of the idle issue and is now running fine.  Drove her into work today and no problems.  Nothing worse then phantom issues - anyone have any ideas what this is about?

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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (19/24)
 6/12/13 12:48pm
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Might be time to check fuel pressure, both when cold(first start), and after it gets hot. The fuel pump could be dragging when it heats up after runing a while, and not provide enough pressure or volume. If your pressure drops when hot, it's prolly time for a new pump. Could also be time for  a new fuel filter. 
An ignition module can also give these same symptoms. Ouch

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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (20/24)
 7/18/13 6:25pm
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Adam you hit it on the head.  So this week Tuesday got into the car for work and she started up, but no idle.  Started to drive down the street hoping it'd 'snap' outta it but still alas no idle.  Drove home to grab the wife's car and decided going to already be late for work, so we drove over to the shop (and of course now it idles fine.)  So days later (with no call back from the shop) I just got off the phone with the service writer and they have found that the fuel pump has indeed gone south.  She isn't keeping up pressure and showing low pressure on one bank.  I had to double question him as at first glance a fuel pump and lack of idle don't make any sense.  So what I was hoping was just a clean and check out the idle air control turned into an $750 job.  Blah Thumbs Down.  Super glad we have this site though as I didn't realize my problem happened so recently (June) that she did this before.  So not that I have much choice but we're going to get a new fuel pump and filter put in.  They said I should have it back by next week... there goes my weekend of funCry.

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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (21/24)
 7/19/13 12:43am
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epohdivad said: Adam you hit it on the head.  


So did I. Back in October:
DaveP85C4 said: When my 85 did this, it was the fuel pump.


I didn't think it was the IAC valve.  It never is. Glad you have it fixed. The shop should refund yer money for the IAC. Because that wasn't it.
Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (22/24)
 7/21/13 10:13pm
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I apologize to all previous posters as yes when I re-read this there were multiple mentioning about the fuel pump.  Adam was just the most recent.  I really appreciate all of your help and your wisdom. IAC is a much easier part to think about ($) versus a new fuel pump ($$$).  

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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (23/24)
 7/25/13 12:59pm
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Got her back from the shop all fixed up with new fuel pump / filter.  She seems to be running great!  Thankfully had a 5% off coupon as out the door $800 with oil change.  Drove by a woman today on the way into work in a Gray C4 with a vanity license plate "her half" ...good stuff.

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Re: car starts - runs, but no idle (24/24)
 7/26/13 12:40pm
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That was a lot to deal with.  Glad you got the fuel pump issue sorted, but sorry it was so costly a repair.  Considering the location of the pump, it seems as if some of these places sure charge a lot Ouch  Well, at least you're back on the road.

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