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Unidentified Aftermarket Item (1/17)
 11/27/12 8:58pm
Black'95
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I recently took off the trim panel on the driver's side to replace my turn signal flasher, I discovered this disc shaped device (some sort of sounding or chiming devise?) which looks like it was an after-market item added by a previous owner due to the electrical connectors and extra length of tangled wire. (see attached picture) If anyone has any ideas or suggestions as to what this is, please respond to this forum.



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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (2/17)
 11/27/12 11:55pm
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Shhhhh...be vewy vewy qwiet....Big Bwother is watching you....Evil Smile

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I ain't got a clue...is there only the one wire going to it? Might possibly some part of an alarm system...possibly a motion detector?


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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (3/17)
 11/27/12 11:58pm
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I have a question for you , How hard is it  to replace that  Turn signal relay?  &  what panel(s) would I have to take off of my 88' to get there ?  I have to manually  blink my  turn signals .....Disapprove

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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (4/17)
 11/28/12 11:03am
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The one wire has two wires inside of it.  One is connected to a ground and the other is connected to an aftermarket relay.  I will see if I can trace what the relay is connected to this afternoon.
Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (5/17)
 11/28/12 11:21am
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Mine is a 95 and the directions I used are from the 1995 Corvette service manual (see attached picture).  I don't know if your 88 is exactly the same or not.  I had to take off the left hand carpet covered trim panel below the steering wheel, which has two screws on the top edge, three screws on the bottom edge and two T-15 torx screws on the left side.  I think the other screws are 7mm but I was able to use a 9/32" socket on them.  To get the trim panel completely out of the way, you also have to remove the courtesy lamp electrical connector and the DLC assembly mounting screw.  Now you have to become a real contortionist and get your head back under the instrument panel and you will find the flasher connected with a spring connector on the way left side (right side when looking up from the bottom).  Grab on to it and pull it out of the spring connector and the wires will be long enough for you to disconnect it and replace with a new one.  I installed new LED tail lights from Mid-America Motorworks and the flasher in the Vette (a Wagner 323) wouldn't flash.  Mid-America tech suggested I replace it with a standard 552 flasher and everything works great.  (I think the original flasher had been replaced with a lighter duty model.)  Now this afternoon I have to go out and put the trim panel back, as it got to dark for me to finish last night.  After I bought my used 1995 Corvette, one of the first things I purchased was a used set of 1995 GM Service manuals for it on eBay.  Best thing I ever did for working on it.  Good luck on yours!
Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (6/17)
 11/28/12 11:49am
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Wow, looks like you found the port hole window from a sailboat I had many years ago Tongue

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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (7/17)
 11/28/12 2:16pm
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I posted this on another forum I frequent, and have a presence on.  SyTy.net is a small, close-knit community of about 50 Syclone and Typhoon enthusiasts that give each other chit most of the time, but there is a wealth of knowledge among the members.  Thought ya'll would get a kick out of the responses. One is correct.

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?p=987911#post987911
Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (8/17)
 11/28/12 3:07pm
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"pressure switch for ignition kill, you have to push on that spot for the car to start " makes a lot fo sense, since it is connected to a relay, but..... This is my favorite answer/guess!! LOL! "Gaydar. Keep that bitch away from Warren. "

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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (9/17)
 11/28/12 6:00pm
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Thank You these are great  pics, The dealers here in San Jose  don't have anything on C4's anymore ......They just call them dinosaurs ........Booooo on them Thumbs Down Thank you again 

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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (10/17)
 11/28/12 11:49pm
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You are welcome, any time!  I always buy the official service manuals for any vehicle I plan to keep.  They are invaluable when you try to work on them yourself.  I found used service manuals for my 95 Vette on eBay.  I also bought service manuals for my 1990 K-Blazer too.
Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (11/17)
 11/29/12 1:36am
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Adams' Apple said: "pressure switch for ignition kill, you have to push on that spot for the car to start " makes a lot fo sense, since it is connected to a relay, but..... This is my favorite answer/guess!! LOL! "Gaydar. Keep that bitch away from Warren. "

472 views, 21 replies in <12 hours. Not bad for a Board dedicated to a marque of such limited production..... They only built 7,697 SyTy's, vs 358,000 C4's.

Gary Shannok is a long-time professional audio / alarm installer in the Miami area. He posted "antenna for teletrac type device". Odd location, but a Corvette's GRP body is transparent to RF, so I guess it would work, but its not very well concealed. I've found trackers in Syclones and Typhoons installed when the cars were new (91-93), and some of the installations were very ingenious and well-concealed.

I also like this one posted by Mike in Denver who is a long-time Independent used car dealer / broker: "looks like an old school dealer installed theft system, there is a transponder fob deal that you run over it to start the car. "

The "gaydar" comment was a friendly jab between two long-time peeps that often dic with each other. Completely "normal" considering the source and intended recipient.....

Thanks for visiting my "other car-hobby" site.





Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (12/17)
 12/3/12 10:04pm
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I poked around in the wires and can add a little more info.  There is a second rectangular device connected to this unknown disc.  They are connected to the instrument panel/speedometer by two wires.  One wire is spliced to a pink wire in a blue connector and the other wire is spliced into a red wire in a black connector.  I do not know what these two wires connect to in the instrument panel/speedometer area.  Maybe it is so the government/CIA/space aliens can watch me and track where I go?
 


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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (13/17)
 11/29/12 11:36pm
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Now it's looking more like it IS a locating antennae set-up. We install stuff like that sometimes on cars that are financed, so the lender can locate, and disable the vehicle if they need to./ Makes re-poing them much easier.

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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (14/17)
 11/30/12 1:23am
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barondeau said:  One wire is spliced to a pink wire in a blue connector and the other wire is spliced into a red wire in a black connector.  I do not know what these two wires connect to in the instrument panel/speedometer area.

I looked in my 95 Helms manual and cant find connector colors as described for the inst panel. The only "red" wire I could find is a red/blk stripe in the theft deterrent system for the rear hatch input. Pink is almost universially hot in IGN position in a GM car. So it knows when the key is in run.

I have no idea what the "red" wire is. It most likely is NOT a "hot at all times" battery wire, as red is only used for unfused circuits. Once they are from a fuse, "hot at all times" is orange. There are no unfused circuits in the cabin except the ign switch and light switch feeds.

Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (15/17)
 12/2/12 8:21pm
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Today I removed the trim panel, cut the wires and took the unidentified aftermarket item out of the car.  I thought that because it was spliced into the wires in the Vette that it would not affect its starting and running if I took it out.  The car started and runs OK after I did take it out.  There are no identifying names or words on it of any kind, only the numbers 021095 stamped on the rectangular piece.  I untangled all the wires and took another picture of the device, so if anyone has ever seen something like this they can let me know what it might be.  Thanks.

Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (16/17)
 12/2/12 9:27pm
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We need to call Mulder and Sculley...LOL


I think it is part of a GPS locator, for a finance company, or just basically a "lo-jack" of some sort. Chunk it in the garbage....Thumbs Up


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Re: Unidentified Aftermarket Item (17/17)
 12/5/12 10:05pm
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Put it on E-Bay and I'll bet that someone will buy it for more than it is worth.
If you do, please post what you got for it.  Fred
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