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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 10/17/13 7:46pm Message 11 of 32
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Vette(s): 1985 Coupe-L98/Auto,Bright Red/Carmine. 1974 Coupe-L48/4speed, Medium Red Metallic/Black Deluxe.
You could do that, but you would still need to remove the cluster to get to the connectors to run a separate ground(to the chassis, tho...not to the bodyWink). A couple of more steps, and the cluster is opened up. Another thing is that it could also be a bad/loose ground somewhere else on the car that could effect the cluster.
A lot of the issues with these things is the connection from one board to the other INSIDE. It's really not a hard job to open it up, and clean the terminals. I have seen some folks go as far as putting single strands of wire over the male terminals before plugging it back in, to give the connection a tighter fit. It works, but I would rather remove the terminals from the connector, clean them, re-crimp , then solder.Thumbs Up
If all that doesn't work, then it's off to the repair feller!



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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 3/18/14 9:57am Message 12 of 32
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Vette(s): 87 Red Coupe, not as pretty, had 213G miles, great running engine; got 20-21 around town, 27-28 on hwy; I got to drive a Vette, every day for 6 yrs. It was my first; so now I know what the fuss is all about. (Sold it 2015 for $3000, still ran great.)
Here's another one of my cheapo fixes, until I have time or inclination to pull the dash and have the digital darkness enlightened by a distant pro. I went to the auto parts store, bought a one-foot long LED light strip, stuck it on the underside of the dash overhang, spliced the wires into a cigarette-lighter plug from an old cell phone, and viola! I plug it in when I'm driving, and it doesn't kill the battery if I forget to unplug it. My son-in-law said they sell lighter plugs with on/off switches, so I'd not have to pull it out every time, but that, too, will have to wait. For now, it works, and makes my daily driver OK to drive daily, especially at night.

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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 10/24/13 10:16am Message 13 of 32
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I fixed my 85 my self following the instructions on battee.com. cost me 28 dollars for the film. but they even tell you how to fix other problems while your in there. just an option.


Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 3/18/14 12:30am Message 14 of 32
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Vette(s): Sold, sniff...1985 Cpe. White wlsaddle leather, 4+3, L98, Z51. Oh well..
Hi, on my last '85 I could see the gauges working, it was just the backlighting.. I bought new bulbs from eckler's and changed them without taking the entire cluster out, just the front facia. I modified a pair of need nose pliers by putting black elec. tape on the ends and pulled and replaced the bulbs carefully.. no problems and it worked great..
 
Now - HELP ! - I just got another '85 but this one is weird, it works great when I first start it up, nice and bright, then after 10 minutes the backlighting goes out, you can see the gauges still working (barely).. after the car has been off for an hour or so it will work fine again for 10 minutes..  ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA?.  think it could be the light sensor, a short?.
Thanks guys..  Joe in Arizona.    (evilram)



Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 3/18/14 6:49am Message 15 of 32
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evilram said: Now - HELP ! - I just got another '85 but this one is weird, it works great when I first start it up, nice and bright, then after 10 minutes the backlighting goes out, you can see the gauges still working (barely).. after the car has been off for an hour or so it will work fine again for 10 minutes..  ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA?.  think it could be the light sensor, a short?.
Thanks guys..  Joe in Arizona.    (evilram)


Funny you should bring this up Joe, as my cluster started doing the exact same thing as yours this past weekend. Have you tried a flashlight in the sensor to trick it into thinking it needs to adjust its brightness? See if your dash responds to different amounts of light and dark.

On mine it still adjusts until it goes out. I think my money is on the power supply section or a gunked up trace on a board, but it could still be the sensor. I won't know until I take it apart this weekend. I will be following this thread along with you.

Bob in "The Copper State" as well  Thumbs Up


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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 3/18/14 10:01am Message 16 of 32
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Can ya'll see the gauges correctly with the headlight switch on? Turning the headlights(or park lights) on dims the panel illumination. If the problem is the light sensor, you should be able to see the panel with the headlight switch on....


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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 3/19/14 11:09pm Message 17 of 32
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Hey Bob, thanks for the advice..All the gauges work, but the Oil Temp shows 370 deg. (cold), can't find the sending unit for that ??? AND I found more bad news under the hood, some burnt wires by the battery, some to the harness and toast to the cruise unit.. working on that today... my luck the ECM will have issues.. 
Will pull the cluster in a few days and see what it looks behind there...
Someone had this whole interior apart and didn't finish putting it back together, I knew that when I got it, but on a budget and wanted another C4 Now.. traded my '83 Camino for it in haste..  So work on it I will... I can probably fix anything, but if it is the light sensor don't know where to get the part ! Looking on CL for a good used unit, can always make one out of two. There are no decent junkyards up here in No. Arizona.. (nr. Prescott)
Will be back on in a few days with news...


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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 3/20/14 6:24am Message 18 of 32
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@Adam: yes, they work fine at night (besides the normal "both direction arrows lit" thing every once in a while), so that would mean the sensor is going? I saw an article about changing it with a Radio Shack part somewhere; Ill try to find it and post it.

@Joe: The oil sender is by the oil filter, right above the mount. Another thing is grounds....they are very important for obvious reasons. G101 is the "big guy" and in mine, it's behind the passengers side kick pad. It might be in the same general area in yours.



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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

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Re: '84 dash cluster rebuild... recommendations?

Posted: 3/22/14 11:14pm Message 20 of 32
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Vette(s): Sold, sniff...1985 Cpe. White wlsaddle leather, 4+3, L98, Z51. Oh well..
Spent all day repairing burnt/bare wires, had to R&R the dist cap & wiper motor, cruise actuator and more to get to the upper eng harness .. used up all my small heat shrink, a load of 60/40 rosin solder, harness covering and an entire roll of electrical tape, Oh my aching back, not near done & giving up yet. It's the challenge I love..  
Will take a pic or 2  tomorrow.. you could probably use a laugh..
 
AND, that site.. batee.com is a great resourse for info and parts for the Dig. dash.. Thanks again..

O.K., let's see if these pics post.. try clicking on the link.  One of wiring in progress, another of my car in my basement/garage.. Later.../member_uploads/15101_15200/15174/733EE_Wiring.JPG/member_uploads/15101_15200/15174/B981E_working.JPG

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