Home page
SPONSOR AD SPONSOR AD

Topic: car starts - runs, but no idle

in Forum: C4 Engines


car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/22/12 3:16pm Message 1 of 24
Profile Pic
Standard Member
Send PM
Kearns, UT - USA
Joined: 4/6/2012
Posts: 86
Vette(s): 1990, L98, 6 Speed Manual, Brilliant red metallic
Drove into work this morning just fine.  Got into the car for lunch and it starts up fine, but won't idle - rpm just drops down then it's off.  I was able with some tricky foot work to get it over to the repair shop, but that's not a good way to drive!  I'm hoping this is going to be an easy fix - just need a new idle air valve? - thoughts?



SPONSOR AD:: (Our Sponsors help support C4VR)

Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/22/12 7:29pm Message 2 of 24
Profile Pic
Standard Member
Moderator
Send PM
Duncanville, TX - USA
Joined: 3/18/2009
Posts: 2247
Vette(s): 1985 Coupe-L98/Auto,Bright Red/Carmine. 1974 Coupe-L48/4speed, Medium Red Metallic/Black Deluxe.
This could be several different issues....you would need to start by checking for any codes in the system, to see if that leads to the culprit. Could be the IAC(idle air control) as you mention, but could also be a TPS(throttle position sensor), or something as simple as a vacuum leak. Lots of variables here, but I would see if it has any codes stored, and proceed from there.


Joel Adams  
My Link

 
   
(click for Texas-sized view!)             NCRS

"Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comforting to cry in a CORVETTE than in a Kia"

Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/28/12 4:15am Message 3 of 24
Standard Member
Moderator
Send PM
lanoka harbor, NJ - USA
Joined: 3/22/2009
Posts: 1363
Vette(s): 1990 L-98 white/ red/black leather interior targa top auto 1975 L48 blue/black leather interior t tops auto
as joel said, there are too many variables in todays car to be able to pinpoint. good luck.




















the dynamic duo


c3vr life member #97

Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/28/12 9:33am Message 4 of 24
Former Member
Send PM
Joined: 4/4/2009
Posts: 254
When my 85 did this, it was the fuel pump. I forget exactly how I determined it was the 21 year old original pump causing the no-idle, but it was. I distinctly remember driving it from where it first died (it was in the smog inspection bay getting its first "smog" in 12 years when I put it back on the road 12 years of storage) to the store to buy the replacement pump, and then home to install it. I'd push in the clutch to shift, and it would die. I'd shift, let the clutch out and it would fire right back up.

I know it doesn't make sense that it could be the pump, but it was for me. I had the problem fixed less than an hour after it first occured. That was 7 years ago, and has never died at idle since. Runs like an L98 should.



Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/29/12 10:27am Message 5 of 24
Profile Pic
Standard Member
Send PM
Kearns, UT - USA
Joined: 4/6/2012
Posts: 86
Vette(s): 1990, L98, 6 Speed Manual, Brilliant red metallic

So the car is back from the shop and it was the idle air control.  Guess the pintle got stuck or something.  Dealership had to get the part from Michigan so it was in the shop until Saturday.  But it snowed a bit during the week so it wouldn’t have been driven anyway.  Snows all gone so it’s with me again today!





Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/29/12 5:30pm Message 6 of 24
Profile Pic
Standard Member
Send PM
Hermitage, TN - USA
Joined: 8/8/2010
Posts: 280
Vette(s): 1990 C-4 Coupe Polo Green Saddle Interior L-98
Glad to hear you got it back, nothing worse than owning a vette thats "in the shop" ... trust me I know!


Allan Brenneis Nashville Tn. 1990 Polo Green Coupe Saddle Interior Chrome ZR-1 Rims http://www.c4vetteregistry.com/member_uploads/14501_14600/14572/image2014329104347r.jpg

Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/29/12 7:38pm Message 7 of 24
Profile Pic
Standard Member
Moderator
Send PM
Duncanville, TX - USA
Joined: 3/18/2009
Posts: 2247
Vette(s): 1985 Coupe-L98/Auto,Bright Red/Carmine. 1974 Coupe-L48/4speed, Medium Red Metallic/Black Deluxe.
Thumbs Up

Ya...the pintles will get carboned up, and not move in/out properly. You can usually clean them, but it's better in the long run to replace.
Glad they were able to get it taken care of!Clap



Joel Adams  
My Link

 
   
(click for Texas-sized view!)             NCRS

"Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comforting to cry in a CORVETTE than in a Kia"

Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/30/12 9:39am Message 8 of 24
Profile Pic
Standard Member
Send PM
Kearns, UT - USA
Joined: 4/6/2012
Posts: 86
Vette(s): 1990, L98, 6 Speed Manual, Brilliant red metallic
So I know the idle is controlled by the ECM, but why is there an adjustment screw at the throttle plates?  After the IAC repair it seems the car is running a little higher idle then before.  I would assume because it's not having to fight getting fuel in like before.  Right after I originally purchased the car I cleaned the throttle plates as they were wicked dirty and it ran a much higher idle then before so before I knew any better about ECM control I adjusted the screw out so to close the plates a bit, and that worked great.  Is there adjustment that works with the ECM?



Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 10/30/12 1:21pm Message 9 of 24
Standard Member
Moderator
Send PM
lanoka harbor, NJ - USA
Joined: 3/22/2009
Posts: 1363
Vette(s): 1990 L-98 white/ red/black leather interior targa top auto 1975 L48 blue/black leather interior t tops auto
to adjust the screw, back it out and then turn it in untils it just touches the arm and then 1/4 turn is where it should be set to. if i remember correctly when i replaced my IAC, it said to drive the car at approx 38-39 mph for a couple of miles so it can adjust itself. the idea is not to let the car go into overdrive.




















the dynamic duo


c3vr life member #97

Re: car starts - runs, but no idle

Posted: 11/3/12 12:45pm Message 10 of 24
Former Member
Send PM
Joined: 4/4/2009
Posts: 254
The screw keeps the throttle plates from jamming / sticking closed. The adjustment also affects the TPS closed-throttle voltage, and the IAC counts. TPS at closed throttle should be .5 Volt, and IAC counts should be 20-40. The screw affects more than just throttle plate position.


in Forum: C4 Engines


SPONSOR AD: (Our Sponsors help support C4VR)